Wednesday, February 15, 2012

What does stable mean when talking about disc golf?

I have been watching a lot of youtube videos about disc golf, and they keep saying the word "stable." Does that mean flying straight?What does stable mean when talking about disc golf?Yes when people are talking about Stable they are talking about a disc that is fairly straight. Then of course you also have overstable and understable. Some examples are: (I don't throw much Discraft so these are all Innova)



Stable : TeeBird

Overstable: Firebird

Understable: Sidewinder



If you are starting out everything will most likely seem overstable for you but once you start to develop a form you will start to see the disc start to straighten out for you and do what they are meant to.



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-ChrisWhat does stable mean when talking about disc golf?One that travels, for the most part, straight with little to no turn, and only a slight fade at the end (Tee-bird, BUZZZ etc).



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What does stable mean when talking about disc golf?No, that's what a lot of people think, but it's an oversimplification.



To understand what disc stability is, you have to understand the gyroscopic aspects of disc flight.



Say you throw a nice high anhyzer. If you're a right-handed backhander, that means the disc starts out tilted to the right. That's the tilt of its gyroscopic axis. Because of torque-free precession, the axis of rotation will move around in a circle in the same direction as the disc spins. So a right-backhand anhyzer starts out tilted to the right, then rotates till it's tilted backwards, then over to tilted left. Hyzer does the opposite, right-forward-left. That's why anhyzers get more height but less distance, because the leading edge of the disc turns upward midway through the flight. The disc changes direction in its S-curve once the axis moves from left to right or right to left.



The exact definition of stability is how fast that axis rotates. A more stable disc has slower precession, meaning it takes longer to flip from anhyzer to hyzer. Because most throws can at best hyzer-flip through three half-S's, a stable disc can go farther, but it's also harder to control the throw. If it's too stable, it might fade too quickly.



Most discs are tested with a fade value, and that's a better indication of how straight a disc will fly. Discraft prints a number value on every disc. A higher number means a straight shot will fade sideways more at the end. All discs fade left if they're spun clockwise, and right if counterclockwise, again because of gyroscopics. Or the opposite if they're upside down. Fade is actually a 3d kind of tilting effect rather than a sideways motion, and it's what makes turnover shots possible.



If you're new to disc golf, you are much better off using an understable to stable disc than an overstable one. Overstable discs are unforgiving if you make any mistakes, and many are for specialized throws or styles. Some overstable discs are meant for turnover shots or meant to fade quick. I have a Champion Firebird that fades hard almost immediately, but I can't turn it over, so I don't use it.



for Innova's, you can generally depend on Leopards, Cheetahs and Eagles to give you reliable performance. Valkyries too. Beast is ok but it has a hard kick at the end of its flight. Discrafts, I use the XL and a Reaper. You might try the Avenger, a good, mid-stability extreme range disc.



A lot of people are throwing 150 gram Innova Wraiths lately. I'm sure you've seen them, they're bright yellow. Excess fade in action.|||Yes.
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